Или может быть - существуют готовые статьи по истории группы, которые можно использовать как энциклопедические? (кстати - на сайте история группы почему-то недоступна...)
Пост N: 1084
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Отправлено: 27.02.09 22:23. Заголовок: Я написал всё что хо..
Я написал всё что хорошо знал и за один вечер. Да и остальные участники могут обидеться)). На то она и Википедия что можно постоянно всё редактировать. Я же не в газету статью отправил... Что-то я не вижу энтузазизма у участников. Никто не дописывает...
Пост N: 5367
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Отправлено: 27.02.09 22:40. Заголовок: Понимаешь, тут одним..
Понимаешь, тут одними дописками не обойдёшься. Надо грамотно и тщательно всем составить текст со всеми упоминаниями работ Линна, а потом его вносить в Википедию. У Натальи на сайте разве нет хорошего материала для основы?
Пост N: 5369
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Отправлено: 27.02.09 23:07. Заголовок: Нет, не хочу сказать..
Нет, не хочу сказать Вообще надо посоветоваться с Наташей. Есть же наверняка у неё тоже какие-то наработки про Линна. Вместе сложим весь имеющийся материал, выжмем все эмоции, оставим сухие факты и вставим в Википедию.
Пост N: 463
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Откуда: Великобритания, Кардифф
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Отправлено: 05.07.09 21:46. Заголовок: Внесу свою лепту в с..
Внесу свою лепту в составлении биографии ELO. Вот недавно прикупил рок-энциклопедию за 1992 год, а там нашел вот такое генеалогическое дерево бирмингемского рока и ELO в частности:
Пост N: 358
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Отправлено: 06.07.09 13:06. Заголовок: :sm66: С первой же ..
С первой же строчки удивился, оказывается Greme Edge из Moody Blues играл вместе с Roy Woodом! А дальше такие хитросплетения! Все наверное друг друга знали хорошо...
Пост N: 464
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Отправлено: 06.07.09 23:52. Заголовок: Игорь, надо собрать ..
Игорь, надо собрать побольше инфы собрать (у меня есть три рок-энциклопедии, в каждой из них хоть сколько нибудь есть про ELO), да в интернете копнуть... Сделаем!
Пост N: 466
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Отправлено: 07.07.09 20:21. Заголовок: Я тут на работе раск..
Я тут на работе раскинул мозгами, и вот что надумал: Сначала надо составить план (ну как в школе перед написанием сочинения), а затем и начинать писать. А писать мы будем, как я понял, не про ELO, а именно про нашего глубокоуважаемого Джеффа Линна (а тут и ELO и много чего еще будет упомянуто). Ну вот выношу на обсуждение форума такой план: 01. Бирмингем послевоенный. 02. Детство и школьные годы Джеффа. 03. Бирмингем, как музыкальный центр Мидлэнда. 04. Idle Race. 05. Встреча с Рой Вудом (The Move, первый альбом ELO). 06. У штурвала ELO (ELO II - Balance Of Power) 07. Traveling Wilburys 08. Zoom 09. Джефф Линн как продюсер. Ну вот вобщем такой у меня план, который уже не на статью, а на маленькую книжку тянет. Это всё, конечно, еще сыро, надо с помощью вас всех подкорректировать. А дальше собираем всю информацию в одно место и начинаем писАть.
Пост N: 468
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Отправлено: 07.07.09 22:02. Заголовок: Ну вот мы вместе и с..
Ну вот мы вместе и создадим труд про Джеффа. А мозгами, Вов, я больше не буду раскидывать. Я на выходных "мозги" попью. У нас в Кардиффе производят пиво "Brains"
Пост N: 1223
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Отправлено: 09.10.09 20:21. Заголовок: Эту статью передавал..
Эту статью передавали по "Открытому радио 102,5 FM" в 2003 году.В перерывах крутили песни ЕЛО. Я записал её на плёнку тогда. Попытка выяснить - кто такой Сергей Озон потерпела крах.
Martin Kinch: Hello Rick, and thanks for your time answering a few questions.
Rick Pannell: It's a pleasure Martin
Martin: So where were you born and brought up
Rick: I'm a Birmingham boy
Martin: Were you always interested in music
Rick: From Saturday BBC radio 'Uncle Mac'
Martin: Who were your music heroes as you were growing up
Rick: Nina Simone, Ravi Shankar, Joni Mitchell
Martin: A lot of the die hard ELO fans will recognise your name as you were a sound engineer for the band back in the 70s, When did you start working for them and how did you get the job
Rick: I started in Spring 1973. There was a musical equipment shop in Birmingham called 'Wasp'. It was the hub of 'interchange' for many bands and 'roadies
Martin: Were you aware of the band before you got the job
Rick: Yes, but mainly the 'roadies' that worked for them
Martin: Had you worked with any other bands/artists before that
Rick: My first band was 'Craig'. We launched Carl Palmer ( ELP ) into the rock world.
Martin: I believe Craig released a couple of singles on the Fontana label, were you with the band at the time of those releases
Rick: I was part of 'Craig' from inception to break-up. The singles were: 'A little bit of soap' and 'I must be mad'.
Martin: Did they get any airplay on the radio
Rick: Not really. Our London Manager Larry Paige had a success with the Troggs at the same time and we missed out
Martin: I think they are quite collectable now, have you got copies
Rick: I've got a few…not for sale. 'I must be mad' has become highly collectable in the Psychedelic music scene
Martin: Did you record any albums
Rick: No. At the time we were more a live act than experienced in the Recording Studio
Martin: Did you keep in touch with Carl Palmer
Rick: Yes, I spoke to him a few months ago and he's back in Birmingham.
Martin: Did you become a fan of ELP
Rick: Not really
Martin: So were you still in a band when the ELO job came along
Rick: I gave up playing with the band 'Galliard' to engineer ELO.
Martin: Tell me a bit more about Galliard, What did you play
Rick: I played guitar and sitar. Geoff Brown was lead singer. We were musically more adventurous with keyboard and Brass, introducing Elizabethan ( hence the name) and Classical styles with touches of jazz. A fusion you could say
Martin: Did you release any albums and singles
Rick: We released 2 albums: Strange Pleasure and New Dawn and we also released a single of 'I wrapped her in ribbons'
Martin: Did it cross your mind that they might make it big after you left
Rick: I wanted them to succeed. The real dilemma for me was giving up performing, though mixing a band can be a performance of power!
Martin: What did the guys say when you told them you were leaving - Did they carry on for much longer after you left
Rick: The band was already trying different styles. They carried on for a number of years under different names.
Martin: The albums were released on CD a few years ago - Did you get them and was it good to hear the albums again with CD quality
Rick: I received them from bass player Andy only a few years ago. Great sound but I can still hear my mistakes!
Martin: Did you write any of the songs
Rick: No
Martin: Do you still see any old the old band members
Rick: Yes Andy Abbott. Geoff Brown moved into the computer world like me and was behind the Games success Lara Croft. He now lives in California.
Martin: The early days of ELO are well known for their sound problems on stage, was this a big problem that you had to deal with as soon as you started and what instruments gave you the biggest problems
Rick: Yes- feedback from the Contact Mics on the Cellos and Violin and also the Mellotron could be temperamental after rough handling.
Martin: Did it take you a while to get the sound they wanted or did you get it sorted pretty quick
Rick: I built amplifiers for the strings with graphic equalisers before they were available. This enabled troublesome frequencies to be reduced. My background was electronics.
Martin: Can you remember the first gig you worked on
Rick: A BBC recording at the 'Paris studios' in London
Martin: So you were thrown in at the deep end then! If it's the one that was recorded on 19/04/1973 then it was released on CD a few years ago and it does sound great
Rick: Yes, that was the one, though I only mixed for the stage and audience. That was important though to give the band a good 'feel'.
Martin: Was it done like a normal gig or could they stop and start again if there was a problem
Rick: It was straight through in front of a live audience
Martin: Was the sound at the gigs all your responsibility or was there a team of people working on it
Rick: The sound and production was my responsibility. The quality and performance of the sound reinforcement equipment was the responsibility of the hire company.
Martin: You must have been quite nervous at the start
Rick: I joined before the first USA tour. The band were very supportive.
Martin: Were some venues easier to get a good sound from
Rick: Let me change that to - some venues were impossible to get a good sound such as Birmingham Town Hall (before renovation)
Martin: Soon after you started to work for ELO they began to get big and started to play in bigger venues, Were the bigger places harder work than the smaller ones
Rick: The big stadiums could lack atmosphere, though the sound was more straight forward than odd shaped theatres.
Martin: So as a sound engineer, what else is involved apart from getting the best sound from a band, do you have to look after everyone's instruments between dates, tune up guitars, cellos, violins etc
Rick: All of the bands electronics was my responsibility including hair driers. It was a privilege to re-string and tune Jeff's guitars.
Martin: So you didn't have to set up Mike Edward's exploding cello then
Rick: Mikes exploding Cello was a special of course. Miraculously mending itself for every performance.
Martin: I would think that life on the road is a good laugh, have you got any favourite funny stories from your days with ELO
Rick: A tour in Spain, spring 1975. A tour fraught with problems especially after the professionalism of the USA. After a food stop with no service and poor food we did a 'run out' without paying.
Martin: You actually often appeared on promo films and on 'Top of the pops' etc with the band playing a cello, how did that come about
Rick: The band lost Cello players in the early years. I stood in on Top of the Pops when Colin Walker suddenly left the band.
Martin: Did you ever have to play it live or couldn't you play it
Rick: I didn't play it live, but as a guitar player I could make it look convincing.
Martin: There's some great stuff on Youtube including a time when you were interviewed with the rest of the band by a German TV presenter, I can't help but feel a bit sorry for him when I see it, had you all had a few beers
Rick: No Beers for a change. The 'in' sayings from the time, like ' say no more' from Monty Python, reference to Mik Kaminski's love of betting on horses and the Sporting life paper were beyond the hip, long haired presenter's knowledge.
Martin: So was there a lot of drinking and parties and all that going on
Rick: I must have missed them.
Martin: I assume there wasn't a shortage of young ladies hanging around either
Rick: No, but sound engineers are low down the rankings.
Martin: Were you all good mates, did you go out socially away from work
Rick: The 'Birmingham boys' would socialise occasionally.
Martin: Did you have any favourite people connected with the band
Rick: Jasper Carrot was a good friend in his Folk singing days
Martin: And who did you get on with most in the band
Rick: Mik Kaminski. I put him at ease for his audition and then shared rooms with him on early tours.
Martin: I imagine Jeff to be a perfectionist - was he good company and was he easy to work with Rick: Jeff was natural and easy to get on with. I had to become a skilled football player on a holiday break with him in Cornwall.
Martin: Were you an actual fan of ELO, would you have gone to the gigs and bought the records had you not been working with them
Rick: Of course!
Martin: Working with Jeff Lynne in the early years, Did it surprise you at how big ELO became
Rick: Not really. Jeff and others put a lot of work into ELO.
Martin: There's been a lot written and said about the band's manager Don Arden, did you have much to do with him,What are your thoughts about him
Rick: Don delegated his son David to interact with me. I got on well with David and had fun with him so kept my opinions of his father private.
Martin: Did you work with the band when they were in the studio as well
Rick: Until I fell asleep in the early hours.
Martin: So who was Ted Blight
Rick: I guess that was me!! The Cellist that appears from time to time.
Martin: Is that you in the blurred photo of the 'On the third day' album
Rick: Yes, in a velvet jacket.
Martin: Have you got any favourite ELO songs
Rick: That is probably 10538 overture for its originality.
Martin: Well, I must admit that it is also my favourite too, I know Roy Wood had left by the time you started working with ELO, but did you ever get to meet him at all, You still shared the same management and record labels
Rick: Roy came to ELO's gig at Birmingham Town Hall.
Martin: Have you seen him since then
Rick: I’ve met him recently at a number of his shows at ‘The Robin ‘ in Bilston. Always friendly.
Martin: What did you think of his band
Rick: Such a dynamic show and a sell-out
Martin: Did you ever see Wizzard back in the 70s - I believe they had similar sound problems to ELO to start with
Rick: I didn't get to see Wizzard, probably because I was away with ELO so much
Martin: Did you ever meet up with Jeff Lynne again after you stopped working for the band
Rick: No
Martin: So as a Brummie you must have been aware of bands like The Move and Idle Race - Did you ever go and see them live or anyone else from the 'Brumbeat' scene
Rick: Yes , I particularly remember seeing the Vikings. when pubs were popular venues for groups .
Martin: Do you have a favourite period or year with ELO
Rick: The Eldorado album period
Martin: It sounds like a great job to have, why did you leave
Rick: I left the band so not to have a Divorce! The previous sound engineer suffered a Divorce (away from home for 7 or 8 months of the year).
Martin: Can you remember when it was that you left, What was the last tour
Rick: It was summer 1977 after a big USA tour.
Martin: Was it a shock to them or did they know you were thinking about it
Rick: The signs were there that the band would only last another tour. It was probably a surprise that I left before the big world tour.
Martin: So though it stopped you getting a divorce, did you have any regrets at leaving. Especially soon after you left they went on to do the Out of the blue tour and album which I would think was the biggest thing they had done,
Rick: I had to shut off from the rock world to make a break without regret.
Martin: OK, So what job did you do after that
Rick: I went back into electronics and the fast developing computer world at a University.
Martin: Did you follow their career at all afterwards
Rick: Only in the media.
Martin: Did you ever go and see them live after you'd left
Rick: I saw ELO part II
Martin: Did you keep in touch with any of them
Rick: Yes, Kelly and Mik.
Martin: Were you surprised that Jeff went on to work with The Beatles / Roy Orbison and many more of the world's biggest artists
Rick: Not surprised as they were inspirational artists.
Martin: A few years after ELO split up in 1986, Bev Bevan got a band together called ELO Part 2, You said you went to see them, what do you think about a band carrying on without the main singer/songwriter
Rick: I saw them once at Wolverhampton but a band without new popular material has a limited life.
Martin: 2009 saw the death of ELO bassist Kelly Groucutt, what are your memories of being with him
Rick: Kelly was very warm hearted. I saw him a number of times in the Midlands and he visited my home.
Martin: Are you still in the music business at all
Rick: No
Martin: Have you worked with any other well known artists
Rick: I worked with Lynsey De Paul and Widowmaker who both came under the Arden's management.
Martin: Do you regard the work you did with ELO as just another job, or will it always be something special to you
Rick: A special period.
Martin: Is it still something you talk about down the pub
Rick: With video material and modern internet media interest I'm re-living it again. It's more the virtual pub these days.
Martin: Does anyone recognise you if an old clip of Showdown is shown on the old TOTP repeats
Rick: Yes. Staff at the University where I worked.
Martin: Well Rick, many thanks for your time doing this, I hope it hasn't been too painful
Rick: Not painful once I had found the old Diaries
Замечательная новость для настоящего эломана.С помощью своего друга Николя Жильбер нашел и разместил на своем сайте рекламу из журнала "Variety" on 11 May 1977.Рекламируется так и никогда не сделанный фильм "Devil's Riff" в котором должен был быть саундтрек ЭЛО.
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Отправлено: 16.02.11 23:45. Заголовок: Dmitry пишет: Про ..
Dmitry пишет:
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Про Rainbow и др. написано, а про ELO никаких упоминаний
Дим, так внеси вклад и укажи это. Можно например так : Американский музыкант Чак Берри в 1956 году написал песню Roll Over Beethoven, вошедшую в список 500 величайших песен всех времён по версии журнала Rolling Stone. " ПОЗЖЕ (В 1973 ГОДУ) ЭТУ ПЕСНЮ ИСПОЛНИЛА ГРУППА ELO , ПРИЧЁМ В НАЧАЛЕ КОМПОЗИЦИИ ПРИСУТСТВУЕТ ФРАГМЕНТ 5 СИМФОНИИ БЕТХОВЕНА". Так - нормально ? Кстати , можно упомянуть и Битлз (альбом With The Beatles) ?
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3 час. Хитов сегодня: 6
Права: смайлы да, картинки да, шрифты нет, голосования нет
аватары да, автозамена ссылок вкл, премодерация откл, правка нет
Вообще надо посоветоваться с Наташей. Есть же наверняка у неё тоже какие-то наработки про Линна. Вместе сложим весь имеющийся материал, выжмем все эмоции, оставим сухие факты и вставим в Википедию.
С первой же строчки удивился, оказывается Greme Edge из Moody Blues играл вместе с Roy Woodом! А дальше такие хитросплетения! Все наверное друг друга знали хорошо... 
, хотя именно у ELO этот убойный хит включал ещё и начало 5 симфонии.
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